I feel totally blessed to have a 2nd chance and we have had a lot of terrific times together. He is kind, considerate, loving, thoughtful, caring and tells me everyday how much I mean to him and how loved I am. How do we recognize the sophistication of humanity and those that give and have gifts while increasing our understanding of the innate motivations of those that take in order to truly thrive and advance?

The last one disappeared somehow, I noticed, when I began to recover from the 2nd 2015 breakdown. A double minded man is unstable in all of their ways. In order to be perceived as a noble martyr, the malignant narcissist slowly constructs their image in the minds of others.

He has hated every place we have rented, and spent most of his time we have lived in places demanding we move out and me dealing with every issue hes had, which is basically about noise. Unfortunately this pandemic has thrown a wrench in our meetings but I will see her again. While I fret over finding best power deals, house insurance etc, he doesnt even notice and sits on his x box!! I think psychiatry is missing out when acting as people with autism cant have any personality disorders. Nine months ago his 34 year old daughter moved back in with him after getting a divorce and had an old dog that had been living with her friend while shed been married and now wanted it at her dads place to live with her.

Why would there not be any DSM explanation for people having autism doing something shitty or is the 1-sided autism made him/her do it? She may be 34 but she is more like 22 in her mind, although she is very bright and creative. Some very dangerously incorrect information about autistic people here, probably better for you to leave it to actually autistic people. As to empathy, that of course is the ability to put yourself in another persons situation (or shoes ! ) Because nobody is ruining everything i do in my back. LadyJay you have found what I have found. I could easily be wrong about what I said.

I have always wondered if im narcissistic not even considering im autistic. Other autistics actually have an excess of empathy- a bit like the HSP (I wonder if all HSPs are actually autistic but that I dont know). Hes always been like this even as child he would compete with me and show me how he did things better than me. I totally agree with you. I also believe I am Autistic (currently undiagnosed). I had to write to the director of the foundation here and expose the entire situation in a group email .. to force them into action. Webnancy spies haberman kushner. ), general poisoning mould, pesticides, F-, pharma, do I need to add heavy metals and Aluminium to all this?? I can tell you narcs are stupid.. morons because their lack of empathy makes them blind and totally unable to get what is going on. I dont want to be selfish but I also need to know how do I have a voice in these situations? Im retired but have gotten into some helpful groups and have developed friendships over the years, in spite of my about 50% introvert personality. She even pushed me to lose 100,000$ i had won gmabling while i was just tyring to quit knowing it was all going back. Weird, but Im not complaining. He said I it was from a 30 year job in law enforcement where that is accepted but I think its just the way he is like he has no clue not to do it. narcissist pretending to be autistic What should we do if our loved one possesses traits of both? I am working on how to ignore his behavior and concentrate TOTALLY on my own happiness.

Narcissism actually exists on a continuum where at its most severe you have Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), not Antisocial/ Sociopathic personality as is suggested in the article. I had no idea how narcissism presented itself in relationships and have read a lot about it as time has passed. You dont need a religion to know that demonic possession is real, just because materialism denies it. Research I have found has moved me forward in my understanding. To my mind this is what life and love is but it can also be debilitating to tender souls. I had spent the past 20 odd years trying to help my husband and felt a tremendous amount of guilt because of things he would say to me. 10. Recently however I have observed other traits which seem to indicate a rype of narcissim. Take care with this as you may need support when you tackle this issue.

No DIY, repairs, painting or buy things for the house, I feel like he doesnt deserve it!

6. I think you have just left a great piece of information. We have a good relationship, and she has a learning disability which makes me learn more towards autism, but there are some glaring narcissistic traits as well. He was a great one for untruths, it worries my daughter to not stick with the truth. I felt by explaining the above, it could help in knowing what level youre on to know how to handle it. I tick many of the boxes of the list in this article and its so confusing. Its what life dishes out and therapy is incredibly expensive too. I didnt resent the fact that he wanted to stay a single man as he brought a lot to my life in other ways. He is obsessed with his teeth. In the most severe instances, the person demonstrates sociopathic tendencies or antisocial personality. 2.

He is not classically autistic he was just diagnosed with autism 26 years ago. Lol the good thing is it forced me to figure it all by myself.. i got a master degree in narcissistic disorder lol and now i spot them from miles away. No one backstab me or do things that enable me to get into much deeper trouble. How what??? Even if i had multiple therapies, therapists, psychiatrists. But @ times he really gets to me & upsets me with his behaviour ! Home Terms of Service Privacy Policy Sitemap Subscribe to The GoodTherapy Blog. And more than anything else i do it.. for me ME I try to make myself proud not others Thats the weird thing with my condition. 1. The flashback was in real time, I felt intolerable pain, and also the emotion of terror. 9. He drives 20 miles to see me, we used to take turns but now I cant go to his house anymore because of the dog. Risk of autistic burnout. Good luck to all of you struggling to understand your own difficulties. He is only playing with you. He was so young and so small and had no protection, from what I can gather.

I figured early that things were wrong, my parents, brothers and other members of my family were doing/saying things that are horrible often totally illegal. She was diagnosed only two years ago and is now 34.

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When I was recovering from my first breakdown, an understanding friend helped me a lot, talked to me, we talked all afternoon once a week for about a year, many hours! What can I do to help put some balance in this situation? They dont understand that if you are in a hospital, you must care help.. thats YOUR JOB. Still i act sometimes.. and do things that are.. truly narcissistic. These experiences and many many more in life, has contributed to a metaphor, this has helped me clarify what happens in life, Imagine: group of 10 people in a room with a small bust in the centre of the people sitting around it, one person is totally blind (but he has no idea he is) The other seeing people dont know hes blind but just has some peculiar mannerisms, everyone is talking about the lovely blue marble bust of a Queen. Realize you can teach a person on the autism spectrum how to be different.

I tried to encourage him to get himself assessed but he said he didnt see the point given his age he didnt think it would be beneficial. I think I may be a Narcissist/Sociopath. Its.. 1 by 1.. each individuals.. the society is collapsing and i watch the horror just happy.. that finally i can just live without all that pain. If I get upset about something he says Im too sensitive and were not compatible. Joanna. I left in her bank money for me still.. i was in shock.. i was the only one in the entire world that knew i had to run .. get rid of the money.. anything but dont leave me on my computer with 100k in bank!!! Maybe thats just evidence that some things can be more than one thing, and that someone can be a bit Aspergers AND a bit narcissistic. We all need enjoyment in life. My 28 year old brother is severely autistic. I cant go to his house anymore so he comes to mine and can only see me the same days of the week, it bothers him to change the schedule, Mon, Wed, Sat evenings for the last 9 months now. He will pick up every small thing around the house I do, particularly when he gets stressed. If we can generate these so called disorders in humans and animals (unethical I agree) with basic methods of no surprise to the modern up to date (i.e. Think about all the mean things hes done to you, not the good things, and you may find there wasnt that many good things anyway, if you put the good and bad side by side. Its easy for me to say you need to get a different perspective on life. Delilah I didnt want to hurt them or have children that would end up like me. I told him this once and he said maybe you shouldnt be with me then. Psychiatrists say its me that learned, for survival, to mimic my family, my parents. I told him I would if he kept making these remarks more appropriate to a locker room so he put it on the list as he calls it and says when the list is too long were through. 1- they had food, 2- i had asked that therapist to be registered to food bank in case for months she knew.. so no she was not bringing me anywhere. As you say autistic individuals are not all the same, I believe you are right and some do have a certain amount of empathy, as my daughter has and I was told by several experts that this is unusual, but then there may be others that dont exhibit much at all, so, they are said to not have any.

Thank you again for making contact and please take very good care of yourself.Mind, Body and Soul. it does seem possible to have both or at least traits of both. Narcissists will use what they can to manipulate the situation, which then overlooks whatever tendencies they have from being racists, sexists, etc. Narcissism is nothing more that a set of hooks for the unsupported autistic mind to function. He told me he did a quiz too and it came back saying he was likely Autistic. This is my second marriage. When I first met him I thought he talked a lot but he did ask me a few questions about myself and we got along okay. But my fear is that the relief is temporary.. i wont be relieved for 40 years What will happen to me when that moves on.. the emptiness of my life, the whole thing.. is pretty dam bad. He has qualities from both sides of the chart straight from the top to the bottom.

My reaction scared me and I finally left him for my own sanity. Develop healthy, happy connections within other relationships. but regularly interrups whatever I am doing to demand attention NOW. functional) neurologist or neuroscientist WebPeople with narcissistic and otherwise dark personality traits (hereafter narcissists) pretend to be many things by twisting the truth and creating falsehoods. Frederic, please try to encourage happiness, in yourself, and any person who understands you. I have a very interesting inner life trying and making sense of my life to the present moment but have no idea whether all this info could be used to move therapy to a better place with unarguable regulation for all. I wrote that.. i was dying.. humans cant stay alive forever without eating just because See.. thats .. narcs stupidity their lack of empathy.. care.. made them totally unable to understand i lived in a foundation for autistic peep that suffered.. with therapist sand psys and NO ONE saw the problem with me asking for help and ways to get food and have Everyone ignore me The director had even humiliated me in front of everyon else to establish her domination on me she jumped af when she got my message that was sent to everyone. His main source was Jacques Ellul and his manifest was totally coherent. Years and years of therapy and what not forced me to aknowledge that i often hurt people making them feel stupid or lowered by the way i talk about myself ad my abilities like its just pocket change normal making others feel like shit while all i was trying to do and truly was.. being humble. The reason Im relating this is because whether a person is Autistic or otherwise they are people!!!! Industrial society has encouraged narcissism from the start each level of so called progress, is actually only progress toward pure narcissism all round. Our story is very sad and very damaging, but we didnt know that growing up, as we had to survive our family chaos. Think I am almost there. I have a daughter living with me and she has level 2 autism. Both.. one after another.. a decade in between each other.. parent tried to kill me. For a man this is a somewhat embarrassing and diminishing situation and causes stress in itself. We married at the age of 22 and had 4 beautiful children together. Other than that he completely fits the description of a narcissist not someone on the spectrum as per your chart above. If I give him space he finds the words. I just came to the understanding that narcissism is a spectrum, and that my mother might be on it. A lot to learn but worth trying. Very interesting. I been rich, my family is rich and it never made anyone happy. A lot of these unfortunate individuals end up with menial work and cannot afford decent therapy, as not all therapy is appropriate, its a minefield and awareness of the condition in question is vital. He doesnt feel he does anything wrong and when I try to tell him how I feel and he calls them lectures and adds them to the list. He hates being interrupted when he is doing anything, or even just thinking. Going by this chart, I have no idea what to believe now. Hehe. I would have thought either you do them willfully or your are unaware of them altogether. She experiences uncontrollable anxiety, apparently something that is unique and at different levels for those within the autism spectrum. I believe his Dad AND Grandfather were the same controlling, hurtful type of people. An emotionally neglectful childhood, involving parents who did not empathize, may result in narcissistic traits in adulthood. I suspect that will be a harder mystery to unpick.

Some good results for my brother once the assessments were concluded. I found it very difficult to find someone that would diagnose adult autism. I feel fortunate that I STILL have that confidence and it has gotten me far and I believe it was because I had great parents (not perfect) but very good people who showed their love and support.. I been destroyed and they tried to ruin my life up to .. erasing it for decades. What can I do to recover from this personality disorder? I had to tell him 3 different occasions the same thing before he realized what I said and was surprised. Now that I understand what makes her tick, I have been able to make adjustments to the way we interact and this has made our lives far better. I dont feel scared or anything and he usually storms out and drives to him mums 17 miles away, returning in two or three hours. He has recently come to terms with the fact he may have high functioning autism. if I may add it to this reply. When he has a rage its off the scale! I had similar relationship with the director of the private college i went to that believed i would be one of his students he could use later in life to show how the college produce geniuses etc. Break up and never look back. It was amusing when I read your sentence think of all the mean things hes done to you, not the good things. and my immediate thought was, what good things? It is not 100% of course but the symptoms you describe are also expected with both low testosterone and therefore can start even before 40, but also due to head injury or events replicating the inflammation of head injury, e.g. If people have no decent care in childhood and adolescence all they can do is put themselves first and take no prisoners. Forgive my writing, im pretty rubbish at Grammar etc. Im in a 30 year relationship with an empathic woman who is just wonderful. It is also apparent that they can only process one thought at a time, and are continually on catch up throughout the day, a reason why autistic children come home like bears with sore heads. However the Blind person cannot fathom how they know so much about it, so he gets up and eventually fumbling feels the statue lifts it, the texture, centre of gravity and many extra details you get from that sort of examination ( please pretend everyone else didnt notice the blind guy doing this) The blind guy tries to contribute to the conversation but no one relates to what hes talking about, because they have only observed the colour appearance and possible texture. I know that doesnt work so well for narcissists though, given the often extreme lack of self awareness. But after reading comments on this website I am totally convinced it is narcissism with my spouse. Life is much better now, I know not to expect her to do things straightaway, but to work up to them. 3. And i checkmark some of boths.

Has any one else been through something like this? I mean other than my pure grades, the behavior of all the important people around me outside my family says a lot. Even 100 years ago, it would be very rude to ignore a letter. Good luck.

I apologise for this being so long, but its a huge subject with a lot of traps for the unwary. When I read those two lists of traits, one for autism and one for narcissism, some time ago, I felt they were a basic set. But of course individual variation makes it possible that both can exist at the same time at moderate levels. Well, finally after two + years with my boyfriend I finally got the courage to leave. Autism and a Narcissistic Personality Disorder could suit him? It is a personality disorder characterized by grandiose self-perception, difficulty with empathy, jealousy, and were also capable of doing it unintentionally, and sometimes thats due to our autism, sometimes it isnt, and sometimes its a mixed issue. If it werent that hes antisocial and gives me the silent treatment through the week in his office, I couldnt survive, since we are both largely at home. If he werent so old as he is, (8 yrs older than me,) with mitigating family concerns, Id divorce now. Narcissists have a way of getting you back, its called guilt.

I have learned people with Aspergers or autism as its now called suffer from a lot of anxiety. 9.

He found it fascinating and helpful. The DVD was called Imagine Having Aspergers Syndrome. He spoke about one of his patients having an attitude that he was king and the rest of his family were his servants. Has anyone run across any studies of people who have had no vaccines or other exposure to heavy metals etc, who dont use drugs including caffeine, and/or who take supplements including essential minerals, B and other stress vitamins? He makes the bed every day and sweeps the floor, and asking more than that is too much. Subscribe me to the GoodTherapy.org public newsletter. I have read a lot about autism and still have a lot to read to try to understand it.

I can prove all my allegations, its the sad truth that more than just me live. Many characteristics of each disorder are absent in the other. If I try to see him through glass I can see that he is self-obsessed, opinionated, considers himself always right (which he almost always is because of his intelligence) can be arrogant and is consumed with his own family, their happiness and his health. Hes just not interested. But when researching have an open mind and dont just research one article, there is a lot of rubbish on the internet, but there is also some very good information that can improve the knowledge of anything you want to learn about and especially the autism spectrum. Putting the list side by side made it easier to compare.

I hope anyone having been hurt or hurts others can stop and take some stock of their own behaviour, as Ive had to in this last year. He overstimulates with grandiose feelings of self-esteem, entitlement, and a strong desire A COMPLEX TRAUMA TEAM was set up and this turned out to be a life changer where therapy is concerned. So all of his behavior never made sense to me. In recent months my autistic daughter and I have been trying to source books written by individuals who have autism to better understand what it is all about and how their minds tick. i have autism and im not one-dimensional. Ugh. I really struggle with this because codependents are urged to draw boundaries with people who do not meet their emotional needs. I watch everyone outside .. its a free-for-all in the world. I was a smart sensitive autistic kid in a family of monsters. Shes not trying to be mean. I hope Ive explained it so you can understand what I am trying to say. we live in a world of extremes of both and there is your answer. So when looking at the so called normal people, how many different traits are there? Ever since we got together he has been judgmental, critical, controlling and insistent on being right about everything. But hes manipulative & very Nasty, when we have words and always blames me for everything within the conversation , if I make a comment he takes it a derogatory comment towards him & after 25yrs Ive learnt how to word my comments, as I know he doesnt take the blame he has the ability to make you believe everything that said is my fault ( he was like that with his 1st wife ) but cannot see it . But Im sure lots of couples overcome these difficulties or learn to live around each other in less conventional ways.

But I keep hurting her by my crippling inaction on a bunch of things like keeping up with bookkeeping for our business (which puts her financial security in jeopardy), or getting life insurance for myself. I never truly had gf or friends most were all narcs that had felt my weakness (my parents work on me made me behave like well, a weak formatted slave a perfect target for narcs). Can you see your loved ones symptoms in either column? I was successful except on two occasions where I completely broke down. Im trying to understand my boyfriend of one year. Ive noticed when I interject a remark to change the subject, he pauses then launches right back into what he was saying, he doesnt even register what Ive said. I do not play head games or understand why people play them, I therefore frequently end up being the loser in social situations. And folks on the autistic spectrum are unlikely to have a narcissistic personality disorder . When autistics and allistics communicate, it might come across that the autistic doesnt care, but the core difference between them and someone with NPD is the intention behind their actions. You be the one in charge, not him. Now Im not sure if I believe him. My family is entirely narcissistics.

One 12 years and the other 6. I thought the list was a bit one-dimensional and generalizing, in fact. No again. I think I partly understand why it went but it would take a lot of explaining, and Ive probably written enough in this comment. I suggest walking away from those you dont, and dont give in to the guilt trip that you feel bad because you havent seen them, or some other guilt you feel. The Body Keeps the Score: Mind, Brain and Body in the Transformation of Trauma, by Bessel Van Der Kolk Childhood traumas need to be dealt with promptly but when these traumas are not understood they show up in the most peculiar ways. I have listed them here with a bit of an explanation, and perhaps they may be of help to you: a person is not responsible for how another thinks (in other words, do you expect others to be responsible for how you think? I ahd to return to him and now think he is in fact autistic but had a very narc mother and grandmother who he learned to relate from in other words he plays by their rules because that is all he knows. I dont, because i understand that every work or situation have pros and cons. Here are some tips: If you are with a person with a personality condition such as narcissism, then you may have similar unfulfilled relationship issues, as well as the added bonus of emotional abuse. He seemed on edge when he got home from work.

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